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[Okori Tenko]

 I would like for each of you to consider something of relatively strong importance.

 Foremost is the insult that this 'entitlement' implies.

 Otaku means something similar to 'Fearless Leader', in old Japanese. To kitsune, their leaders are called 'Otaku' in old reverence to who and what they are. In modern times, for a human to call an outsider by such a name in modern times is an insult to the outsider. Most outsiders don't know this, as it was typically used as a term to endear those they respected. Now, it's a term of insult given to those whom think they 'know' something, and have shown they don't. Ergo, though called 'Fearless Leader', they are 'speaking of it in such a way as to depict the outsider's descent into stupidity and foolishness'.

 Though taken up by those whom use the term 'Otakukin', I still find that the adaptation is both good, for taking the attempt to turn an insult positive, but also erringly wrong, in the sense that the 'Otakukin' term so adopted comes from a grandly bad root. However, some things just come that way.

 In the long run, though, is the look on spirituality. In the long scheme of things, some are born 'possessed' with kitsune spirits in them. To be blunt, no human body can possibly do the justice for the kitsune spirit that resides inside. Just my personal opinion. Aside from the personal opinion, there is the 'spiritual self-understood facts' of the matter at hand.

 Foremost is the understanding that all those whom are 'kitsune' are 'Human Hosts'. We're shells for the Kemono Youkai that reside within. As such, the life-long bonds that we've had for this creature are strong.

 It's important to separate the 'Fox' from the 'Hole', so to speak. As we live with them inside of us, we we think of them as ourselves is really them. The ties are so close, that what their thoughts are, we think we truly think of. What they feel, seem like our feelings. What we know, is what they know.

 That is a part of the 'Bond between Spirit and Host', which I'll really speak on later.

 The point being is self-illusion. Kitsune are beings of both spirit and mind, and in their real forms, can seem quite monstrous to look at, as they WERE creatures originally made to be both beautiful and terrifying at the same time. Kitsune innately know this, and so choose to 'mentally project' an 'illusory silhouette' of something comforting, so as to sooth and ease the mind of the Host, while the Host prepares mentally for the truth to come.

 As is, some Kemono Youkai seem to prefer to live out an existence as these newly imagined 'creatures' from fantasy, as to them, it seems as if just as fitting as their original form.

 To the point, Kemono Youkai are creatures of both spirit and imagination. They grow through story, in both Legend and Mythology. Perhaps this is one of a variety of chose 'manifestations' they decide to adopt.

 The truth is?... we may never know. However, don't discount it as dis believable proof that someone is 'mad' or in some bad sense 'Otakukin'... because in the end? You insult the choice of the existence of another Kemono Youkai.

 No Kemono Youkai should to that to another. It shows a lack of respect, and true understanding of the nature of what it means to be a spirit. Thus, actions like that lessens you as a spiritual being, and as a Host. If that is so, could it be any real wonder why the kitsune inside remains to hide, rather than be known outside of you as a Host?

 Don't wonder anymore. Know it. It's fact.

 Oh... and just for the sake of reference, Chocobos are designed after a large prehistoric bird that was once similar to a cross between an Ostrich for size, a Falcon for predatory alignment, and parakeets for coloration. They went extinct because of the influx of pack-hungry and driven ancestors of both dogs and wolves that migrated over the Bering Straight during the last full ice age. These birds were solo predators, and once ranged at the top of the local food chain. Now? They're extinct due to better top predators that attacked in packs, not as solitary hunters.

 Chocobos from Final Fantasy were designed after them. After all, they were thought to be as fast, if not faster than, modern horses. Their tops speeds were thought to reach 45-55 MPH. Just a few thoughts to chew on. >^.^<

[Seeker]

If your supposition is correct, and they are in fact kitsune, then they are just too far from reality to make any meaningful connection with them until they choose to discard their mask(self-illusion as you call it.) And anything a "host" of such says or believes may simply be part of that illusion. The result isn't useful to anyone because it's mixed and matched with illusory information.

I'm sure they can be helped along, but that would require careful, patient attention from someone with enough experience. And even then, who are we to make that decision for them? In that case it's better to leave them alone anyway.

[Okori Tenko]

 Posted by Seeker:

 I'm sure they can be helped along, but that would require careful, patient attention from someone with enough experience. And even then, who are we to make that decision for them? In that case it's better to leave them alone anyway.

 This is exactly my point. With some who are willing to learn, be patient with them, until the kitsune inside them chooses to make itself fully known. If it doesn't, then this may be what it chooses to currently exist as. In such cases, delicacy and help should be offered. And help sometimes include leaving them alone.

 ~The greatest of teachers won't hesitate to leave you there by yourself chained to pain.~

 Really famous Alternative Rock song. Can't remember who it was. Invaluable lesson learned. Great lyrics.

[Seeker]

That's I Alone by Live. Great song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNrQOUtXYOo

I'm not saying you shouldn't try if you're able. It's just not something we're equipped to deal with here.

[Okori Tenko]

 That's a place I can help. I've dealt with other Otakukin for a long while, in several different places, with several different kinds of Otakukin. I'll still be there to help them along their journey, as any other that asks for my help. Granted, I've read the rules and know 'Otakukin' aren't accepted around here, but should any come along, any of them can contact me, and I'll help them along their journey. All that needs said is that they are Otakukin, and that they'd like a bit of guidance. I'll be there to help.

 Who knows? By the time I'm done helping them, we may have a new kitsune on our hands. >^.^<

[Kira]

 
Umm, according to my data the word "Otakukin" komes from "Otaku" which means "House", describing the people who seldomly - if ever - leave their house.

[Okori Tenko]

 Problem is, some words in Japanese have multiple meanings. It depends on the local of where you're at. Also, it can be dependent on the ancient translation, from Hiragana and Katakana. Moreno, modern translations aren't what they were in the old days. From, 'Fearless Leader', to 'House of the Fearless Leader' (back then, the brave always 'sheltered' the weaker', and is a part of how Ujis, or Clans, formed.), to 'House' to 'Home'. When applied to a person, it now means 'House Dweller'. However, due to the ancient form of cutting words up, the iconography can now be seen clearly. Many translations work this way. Even that is obvious to those who've studied some of the words in English.

 For a prime example, the English word fagot originally meant a 'bundle of wood', which was carried on the back by most peasants throughout the ages for various purposes. Now it has a more... lewd meaning and viewed iconography. The same principal can be attributed to some Japanese words, and in this case, can apply drastically accurately.

 The same applies to the word 'kitsune'. Kitsu, meaning fox and -ne, a suffix with a connotation for the spiritual. That's a translation from Modern Kanji, formulated in the Meiji Restoration Period. However, when sourced to Hiragana, broken down in a different way, means 'Come sleep with me'. This is also where Kitsune get their iconography of 'sensual natures' from. To be blunt, though, a sensual nature doesn't mean sexual promiscuity in Japan, although it can. You can be sensual without being sexual. That's a learned part of the passion found in kitsune.

 The point should be more obvious now. I hope that's a little more explanatory. >^.^<

[Zephiris]

Ironic? Tragic? A tragic attempt at irony, an ironic attempt at tragedy? Okay then.

"Consider this". People want to escape so desperately from their own humanity, they're willing to lie to themselves, and others, just to get through the day. It's more common than people let on. The vast majority of people do it to some degree. People much beyond a few slaps or a cold shower, aren't going anywhere in their fantasy land that they don't want to. Nobody can make 'em, nuh'uh. That's generally why there's a fairly thick and obtuse border between 'maybe you're a little confused' and laughing hysterically and attempting to find the patience to put the laughter into words that are constructive. Even if a member here was a trained mental professional (doubt it), would they be wanting to help the 78th poor schlub who can't be reasoned or leveled with? Whom they can't even give their honest reactions with out of fear? Doubtful.

It will tend to be that, at least with Alynna, the stated policy is the stated policy for a considered reason. Personally? There've been enough Otakukin and roleplayers around here at various times in the last year to choke several horses outright. A lot of people on the internet at large have always proposed a 'unified theory of everything' (everything MUST be 'X', you're just confused about it!). There're as many 'things' as there are stars in the sky. This is a tiny rock, on a sizable physical plane. The universe hasn't revolved around anything so inconsequential for a long, long time. :p

Things tend to be whatever they always were. If there's any mystery or inobviousness behind any of that, I hear Ripley's Believe It or Not is still accepting entries.

[Okori Tenko]

 HAHAHA! Ripley's.

 Believe it or not?... I'm a fan. Very interesting show.

  Of course, you -are- right. By far, I would not declare myself anything close to a psychologist. However, I -would- claim myself experienced enough to know something about the world and how people work. Eventually, all do become aware of this, and like this. Wisdom in age.

 Most try to slam the truth into other's faces, much like the Otakukin anywhere on the net. However, I'd like you to consider that it's the only corner they know, and feel safe in it. Ergo, the reason why some Otakukin protect it with all of their vehement tenacity.

 Some, you can't convince. There are those, however, who respond to a soft and patient paw. That's where I come in. I'm not saying Otakukin should be posting anywhere on the boars, as this is Alynna's wish... What i -am- saying, is that I'll help them, if they want it, when and where they can get in touch with me.

 For instance, one place would be in the IRC chat-room. Since it's not a permanently texted place, I'd think it would be alright -allowable- to help an Otakukin there, as it's away from the Message Board here. More or less, it -could- be an appropriate place, where someone like me could take the time out to help someone like them, without interupting the boards here, and making what happens 'dramatically viewed'.

 To that point, I would like to ask Alynna if such a thing would be permissible, just in case something like this comes up. Alynna? Would me potentially helping an Otakukin in the IRC chatroom be alright? - Provided that no one is really using the chat room at any specific point in time to discuss anything topic-wise.

 The consequences I would be entirely willing to accept on my shoulders, should there be any. I can promise you little to absolutely no drama would take place between the Otakukin I'm helping, and any other patron of the establishment. As you can see from other posts I've made, I don't say I can do something without being able to seriously do it.

 The choice is entirely up to you, but I would like to be able to show one day, that it -IS- possible that many Otakukin really are exactly as I've said. And with a patient, soft paw, they could be seen for the Kemono Youkai they are... and then, we'd have a new kit in the over all community to teach. I'd see this as a boon, were you to allow the opportunity. After all, wasn't there a time when even you were afraid of coming out of your own shell and comfort zone about something? wasn't there something that you'd felt so strongly was right... before you found out in the end that it wasn't quite the truth you thought it was?

 How many treated you with a soft paw?... How many would you have liked to have done so for you?

 I'll understand if you simply say 'no', and abide by that. I'd only ask that if there -IS- an Otakukin wanting to be helped to explore a kitsune possibility nature, that they be allowed to contact me through the boards by simply saying something like 'Otakukin here. I want help, Okori.' or similar, as I'm not exactly going to hand out my home phone number, and I'll keep that kind of business to e-mails or something until I feel it would be alright to contact you, soft-paw post-applied, and deem-ably ready for your allowance to be accepted as a part of the community.

 Up to you? I do hope you approve. I wouldn't fail you.

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