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[Kira]

I'm offically catholic and that means I'm offically christian (can't remember the last time I went to church though), simply because it's a hassle to quit it.

Here in Germany you get religios education starting right from 1st grade. Through the course of that I realized that god and devil indeedare very much the same, only devil shows his evil openly,while god is more like the evil plotter. Just my personal view though.
 

[GoldKitsu]

Wait, what? Can you clarify what you mean by that? I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Christians haven't crucified anyone, nor have they ever condoned the act. Wouldn't make sense for them to, seeing as that's how Jesus died.

Christians prefer burning at the stake or stones tied to your feet and throwing you in a lake.  *ducks*

[Teja]

Christians prefer burning at the stake or stones tied to your feet and throwing you in a lake.  *ducks*

Yeah, they do it all the time these days. Watch out for those Christians!

[GoldKitsu]

Christians prefer burning at the stake or stones tied to your feet and throwing you in a lake.  *ducks*

Yeah, they do it all the time these days. Watch out for those Christians!

Well, if society collapsed, certain Christian elements would very likely start those practices up again.

[Taoki]

Wait, what? Can you clarify what you mean by that? I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Christians haven't crucified anyone, nor have they ever condoned the act. Wouldn't make sense for them to, seeing as that's how Jesus died.

You really don't know? Wow... maybe its just a belief in my area then. But I know that christians prefer to kill and burn creatures like us and everything thats not human, because they consider us evil. Christians have a special belief that creatures like kitsunes are evil because "they have sharp claws and teeth so they must be evil dangerous demons".

In other words, christians consider all other creatures except humans evil, and believe they should die. At least from what I know, both personally and heard from others. The reason why I try to stay as far away as from groups with such thinking and ways of being... I dislike them and their presence.

Christians also have many reasons for which they must despite others as deep as possible. In the top of the list being sex, except certain types that accomplish 1000 conditions in gods list... not following a certain list of traditions to "serve god well", and maybe a whole lot of other things in the list. Sorry if I am badly informed and may be exaggerating, but at this moment that is what I know.

[Teja]

In other words, christians consider all other creatures except humans evil, and believe they should die.

Yeah, this...is not Christian dogma. At all. Some Christian sects don't believe that animals have souls (and that therefore they cannot go to Heaven), but that's about all I've heard when it comes to non-human life -- and frankly, I really don't think the average Christian knows or cares what a kitsune is.

To qualify, my family is Catholic and I attended Catholic schools K-12, so I'd like to think I know what I'm talking about.

[Taoki]

Yeah Teja... I will try to listen more on this topic. If Christians are indeed not as bad as I thought till no, I don't wanna judge the wrong group for something they're not responsible for.

Well another reason why I got this negative view about christians is the way I was raised irl. The teachers at religion class, irl relatives, etc. teach us things like Jesus being a great guy because he himself made it that peoples souls go to heaven or hell cuz before him everything was blackness, and that Jesus and god are people who judge you closely like an officer at an exam and when you die, they send you to heaven or hell accordingly to the "marks" you got.

They make it so that people get the impression on their god that he is someone who is everywhere, and you cannot ever get rid of him and his presence wherever you go, and he watches you all the time (I actually laughed when someone else told me they where also concerned god watches them when they go to the bathroom when they where younger ), and that he is someone like an old man with beard who punishes all those who do wrong and brake his sacred rules.

My person couldn't accept such a thing... so instead of actually admiring this so called god and religion, I actually started despiting them for how they where forcing such things upon people. But yeah, maybe thats just a region thing *shrugs*

[BlackFox]

Well, if society collapsed, certain Christian elements would very likely start those practices up again.

I find that blatantly offensive. True Christians do not do that nor do they have the inclination to do such stupid things. True Christians are far more open minded than the such stupid stereotypes portrayed by strikingly arrogant people.

[Seeker]

Unfortunately, your good-willed attitude cannot cover the fact that many of the most charismatic leaders of christianity today, such as the Grahams and Robertsons, patently ascribe to such hatred. You are noble in finding your own light but many are much more passive about their beliefs- they put the blind faith that they were taught as children to have in God, in those who claim to speak for God, and will follow the passionate words of fanatics over the measured logic of reasonable men. The common metaphor in christian literature referring to people as sheep and religious figures as shepherds is not without cause.

In summary I would say that religion of all sorts tends to encourage people to be good, while religious leaders, who are held in high esteem by the "flock", tend to eventually exploit the trust that is placed in them to affect people's views on temporal matters and their own personal biases. Because of this negative tendency of individuals given any sort of power to abuse it, I hold religion to be by and large superfluous, instead seeking a personal relationship with the Divine, uncluttered by the whims and mores of humanity.

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