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« on: April 05, 2010, 01:03:54 PM »

I've been told that there used to be many more topics relating to vampires here. I don't know why they're gone, but to be honest I don't think it really matters. Instead of questioning the past, I'm starting this topic.

First off, I'll introduce some facts about myself - reasons why I feel I can say what I do. Many years ago, when I began questioning who I was, I was drawn to the idea of energy. It's flow and control, sense and power, it all intrigued me. Mostly because, at the age of 6, I could already identify with it. Back then, I was already practicing meditation of my own free will - for reasons unknown even to myself. Later, with more information at my disposal, I was drawn to the vampire community. I found various online forums and chat rooms, and I read as much as I could. I adopted one such chat room as my second home, and I made many friends. Some were vampires, some were not, but all were informative, interesting, and most importantly kind. While there I met a multitude of different types of people. Some, felt like giving me space and letting me grow on my own. It's those people whom I hold in the highest regard. Others, felt that they should tell me what I was. On numerous occasions I was told that I was a vampire. And while it's true that some things about me point to vampiric influences, I knew I was not one. Regardless, had I not had my own strength and resolve, my ideas could easily have become over shadowed. It's for this reason that I never say what someone is, or even give them my opinion on it. I may describe features about them and suggest they look it up, but taking action beyond that I think can be damaging, especially for those early in life.

Now, on with the topic~
Especially with popular culture where it is today, there are a lot of mixed ideas and arguments concerning vampirism. Small differences can lead to large implications. The amount of strife within the community itself is unfortunate, let alone between the community and "normal" people. This is something I of course cannot not resolve, and in my opinion I don't think will ever be resolved. However, I think the lessons I learned in "awakening" can be applied. And, I would be extremely grateful if it were to happen here, at kitsuhana. What I mean is this: I would like a level headed conversation regarding the various qualities that define a vampire as a vampire, and what they can do. To make it clear, I would like people to post their opinions, but only as personal statements, and not replies. One person says what they think, the other says what they think, and the previous posts are never questioned. I think in doing so, we will begin to see all the differences, but most importantly, the similarities between members of the community.

If this is successful, I give all the thanks I can to the members of this community. If not, well... lets just say I wont be too surprised.

But anyway, here is the question for all to answer: What makes someone a vampire? What can vampires do that normal humans can't? and more specifically, how does one know that they are a vampire?
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    « Reply #1 on: April 05, 2010, 01:27:56 PM »

    I've been told that there used to be many more topics relating to vampires here. I don't know why they're gone, but to be honest I don't think it really matters. Instead of questioning the past, I'm starting this topic.
    The translation to SMF [Simple Machine Forums] i think.

    But anyway, here is the question for all to answer: What makes someone a vampire? What can vampires do that normal humans can't? and more specifically, how does one know that they are a vampire?

    Right now what the definition of "Vampire" in your head ?
    Because every one I know IRL say it's a "Human shape" who suck blood of "Real human" to survive or "eat"

    But in my head it's totaly diferent
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    « Reply #2 on: April 05, 2010, 01:34:21 PM »

     Wink
    Sceptic, aren't we?
    I won't hold it against you though. Not in the world as it is.

     fox_okay
    Now, let's see...
     Huh?
    Regrettably, I don't have any positive data on humanoid vampires. The only vampires I know of are bats, and they don't drink blood by biting, but the lick it after making tiny cuts in the skin with their razor sharp claws. That happens so precicely that the victim animal will sleep right through it and the cut will likely heal by the next morning. And of course the victim animal won't turn into a bat from this.
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    I beleive it to be highly unlikely that there exist any humanoid vampires in the traditional sense. However, since I'm aware that I myself can absorb energy from all my surroundings it is only logical to assume that individuals with different affinities would be able to target living beings specifically, and thus be energy-vampires of sorts.
     :P
    However, that is no longer a trait specific to vampires. Many spiritual and mythological creatures have been reported to drain a person's spirit and vitality "just like that". Vulpines are one of them.
     Hyper
    So to sum it up, I don't believe that humanoid vampires exist as a race. The draining of energy seems to be more of a skill that can be learned through effort and/or talent than something heredetary or contagious.
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    « Reply #3 on: April 05, 2010, 02:13:14 PM »

    And now it's my turn...

    I've personally come to the understanding that most of the questions I just asked are trick questions. I say this because, vampires often times seem to have no more ability than a human might. However, there is one key aspect that I've seen every vampire agree on. It's not that they CAN drink blood or that they CAN take energy. No, it's that they need to. It's my personal opinion that vampires are defined by their need to gain energy in a parasitic manor.
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    « Reply #4 on: April 05, 2010, 02:29:36 PM »

    fox_thoughtful
    I beleive it to be highly unlikely that there exist any humanoid vampires in the traditional sense. However, since I'm aware that I myself can absorb energy from all my surroundings it is only logical to assume that individuals with different affinities would be able to target living beings specifically, and thus be energy-vampires of sorts.
     :P
    However, that is no longer a trait specific to vampires. Many spiritual and mythological creatures have been reported to drain a person's spirit and vitality "just like that". Vulpines are one of them.
     Hyper
    So to sum it up, I don't believe that humanoid vampires exist as a race. The draining of energy seems to be more of a skill that can be learned through effort and/or talent than something heredetary or contagious.

    HAAA ! Stop Draining my tough :P

    Someone who feed of Energy, emotions, and/or anything in aspect with a human
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    « Reply #5 on: April 06, 2010, 12:43:46 AM »

    I don't believe vampires need to drink blood, I just think that they become dependant on it -like a drug.
    I've only spoken to a couple of 'vampires' before and they both seemed to think that they were never fed off of -they simply changed at some point in their life. There was some talk of their vampire being being in another 'realm' parallel to this one...
    The general impression I got was similar to that of therian and otherkin comunities where if you believe you are a vampire that's enough to make it so.

    As for abilities that they had compared to regular humans they believed that most of their abilities remained with the part of them in the other realm.
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    « Reply #6 on: April 06, 2010, 06:37:35 AM »

    I don't really know any vampires, humanoid or what else.

    Some people say mosquitos are vampiric as well, though, if you say that they need blood to survive, that means they aren't. Mosquitos only need it to produce eggs (that's why only the females suck blood).

    vampire bats would be the only confirmed vampires I can think of. Not saying that there aren't any humanoid vampires, just I've never seen, spoken or felt any. Same can be said that I haven't seen a vampiric bat irl.
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    « Reply #7 on: May 06, 2011, 08:21:42 PM »

    Oh fun, I didn't think I would find this here. Luckily I happen to know a lot of vampires.

    There's at least two types- Psy and Sang. Sang are the traditional blood-drinkers, which I actually know more of. Awakening as a vampire is actually a pretty painful process, and can happen pretty suddenly. Some can get away with drinking animal blood, but most have to drink human blood. In exchange, "blood abilities" become fueled. One sang I know is studying to become a first responder- he can change the flow of the cells in the blood, healing wounds quicker, or just overally helping people to feel better.

    Psy vampires are the more efficient, evolved vampires. They take the energy around people (if that wasn't apparent enough lol). This can be taken in different ways, depending on the nature of the energy that is taken. Some can feed off negative energy, leaving their 'prey' to feel good and the vampire to benefit as well! Others take passion energy- created by anything from someone talking excitedly about their bass, to sex. The best benefit to psy vampires is that they can make a psychic link and take energy that way, not needing physical contact. I share the opinion of someone who spoke above that these types could also not be vampires at all, but a creature like a vulpine (This is a forum for kitsunes after all~)

    Both types tend to have the ability to attract prey through a high charisma, or otherwise have the ability to get people to trust them. I'm not too sure HOW one becomes a vampire though, whether hereditary or passed on through each lifetime. Guess I'm not the expert after all :P
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    « Reply #8 on: May 07, 2011, 07:01:58 AM »

    Psy and Sang.
    Is there a reason why the word Sang (blood in French) is used ?
    French is my first language BTW Smiley
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    « Reply #9 on: May 07, 2011, 01:41:54 PM »

     fox_okay
    I'd imagine it comes from "sanguis", the latin word for blood. And just like "psychic" is abbreviated to "psy", "sanguine" is abbreviated to "sang".
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    « Reply #10 on: May 09, 2011, 12:01:30 PM »

    But anyway, here is the question for all to answer: What makes someone a vampire? What can vampires do that normal humans can't? and more specifically, how does one know that they are a vampire?

    You can have "vampiric" tendencies (here on refered to feeding) without having anything vampiric at all.

    Several species feed in many ways. Off the energy flows around them,  directly, sexually, some even need the physical properties of whatever it is they're feeding from (not just energy).
     
    As a specie, well every specie has different abilities and drawbacks because of how they're designed. Remember even humans can do some energy manipulation.

    As for how to tell, that's something you'll have to pick up or get a very talented (and non fantasy blabbering) being to guide you through the discovery process.
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