The comparison I would make is that she is a revered elder.
Elder? If you say so.
I'm going to say this: that wasn't an accurate reading from my point of view. It was from a point of view that I knew would give an erroneous picture, and yet it is perfectly valid to the person who would form it.
This is beyond comprehension. Either you left something out or you were on something when typing this part. So you're basically saying you purposefully made a wrong assumption? Uh-huh. Yeah.
I knew that upon first meeting you.
You have my congratulations. Here's an arsenic cookie.
The way I see it, a first impression is a type of pre-formed impression. It is not formed by the actual act of meeting, but by the act of observation. You have a first impression before you ever speak, and therefore before you ever meet.
This is all fine and dandy except for one minor flaw: This is an Internet forum, not a real-life meeting scenario. First impressions are developed upon reading this person's posts, because there is no real contact with this person that can give me anything to make an assumption with. Oops, did I say
minor flaw? My apologies.
I agree with you on the majority of this line. but the last sentence smacks of hypocrisy. Why shouldn't you need to prove everything to people, since you hold people to the same standard?
"Hypocrisy?" I think not. Hypocrisy suggests I expect someone to do something that I, myself, do not do. Knowing this, your argument is invalid on grounds that:
1. I do not expect people to prove or tell me "everything" (as you put it). Do I ask you when the last time you masturbated was? Where you were last night at 9 PM? What you ate last Friday for lunch? Whether or not you wear boxers or briefs? What your favourite colour is? You get the point. It is none of my business, nor is it yours.
2. Your "everything" has nothing to do with Kitsune, otherkin, therianthropy nor spirituality. And as far as I know, every single question I've asked someone here was directly related to the above, and not this "everything" you refer to.
3. The questions I ask are asked whenever someone makes claims without explaining them. Do you see me going around here making any claims? I don't think so.
I believe this makes me not only exempt to this, but also proves you keep making uneducated assumptions. Again, I have no need to answer to someone of the likes of
you regarding anything about my life, especially since it is all irrelevant.
Now, this I have a problem with, or rather there is a paradox in my mind. To say that you are willing to give people chances and that you keep your opinions fluid is directly at odds with the concept of judging people, which is to make a definite decision about them based on evidence or lack of it, and then stick by that decision.
This isn't "Ripley's Believe it or Not." Whether you capacity to do this or not, this can be done and it
is done. I do give everyone an equal opportunity to redeem themselves if they made a bad impression on me. Some of the people I mentioned earlier are proof of this. But this does not mean it will be successful on every case, since some people don't break out of their previous issues enough to earn that redemption. If you'd like to verify it you can go right ahead and ask them (again) instead of continuing to flap your gums regarding things you don't know about. Hell, even
you have this opportunity.
You say that I'm wrong about your opinion changing. And I am, looking at it through my own eyes. But to new people on the forum, to people who don't know you already, it is a perfectly valid and accurate assessment of your 'first impression'.
That is correct, you
are wrong.
Yes, and they have the right to make their impressions and form opinions of me. But tell me why I should care about their opinions of me. Do they pay my bills? Are they close friends of mine? Are they a part of my family? Are they my mate or anyone otherwise important to me? Absolutely not.
I do not take the Internet seriously, nor should anyone else for that matter. Doing so is silly and suggests you need to get a life if you do.
Ah, belief, the eternal minefield. See, between me and you there is an essential difference about the nature of truth. You obviously see truth as an absolute, something that can be reached and ought to be striven for at all times.
You are incorrect, yet again (surprise, surprise).
For me, "truth" is dynamic. Truth is something you believe explains how something works or just is the way it is. I think you are referring to "fact" and not "truth." Fact, unlike truth, is static. Fact is a determination done upon the conclusion of reliable and/or scientific evidence after research.Truth is theoretical and ever-changing until it becomes a fact.
I think that truth is not absolute, and that it can change depending on your point of view. So, when Nashi says these things and there is such an air of truth around it, I have to accept it as true to her, even if it sounds like utter shit to me.
Okay, but here is some food for thought: Let us take someone from a mental health institute as an example. This person believes they are Superman. In fact, they are damn sure they are and would even swear it on their own mother's death. To this person, this is the truth. They are not lying, they are not trying to pretend, and they are not trying to deceive or lie to anyone. So, again, this person is speaking what they perceive to be the truth but they are wrong. This person has a mental condition that is fueling this delusion.
So, who is to say your friend here isn't experiencing a delusion? Just being sure about a claim you make is not enough to prove it. Especially if you cannot reason why you believe it. That is unless she is purposefully making it up, role-playing/pretending, or is simply confused.
Obviously you think differently and I have to accept that at well, but I don't have to agree with either of you, preferring to pursue my own non-absolute truth.
This is because, although however young I may be, I have been around long enough to see and hear many things regarding the psyche of a person and their impulse to lie in order to be accepted. I know what the art of deception is in and out. I don't care if you agree with me or not. It is my opinion and you have your own. This is not enough for me to successfully read anyone, but it is more than enough to determine which of those categories they fall into just by catching the red flags and the way they respond to certain specific questions.
So yes, I do have reason to believe (still) that Nashi is one of the following:
1. A role-player whom doesn't have the ability to properly differentiate between reality and a game, or
2. An attention seeker that is a social outcast in real life looking for a place to fit in and be accepted.
I don't think I can read you. I know I can. And I have yet to be disappointed, as it's been accurate every single time. Reading you as though I were Nashi, reading you as though I were a scared newbie, reading you as myself... even if you're not willing to accept it, they're all accurate and perfectly valid viewpoints of you, but none of them are your own. An example of non-absolute truth.
If you say so. As far as I can see, there have been many flaws in your assumptions and arguments regarding who you say "I am." If anything you are amusing me right now with this arrogant, and uneducated reply. You are either very sloppy, quite moronic, or skilled in pretending to
be moronic. Especially if you think that this statement will actually anger, scare, or hurt me somehow. Sorry, though nice try.
LOL.
Hugs and Kisses,
~Kirara
Oh yeah, and Kirara.
About what you calle sugarcoating...
Aren't we foxes so well known for being the silver-tounged ones?
Some of us. The ones who are educated, at least. I've seen some pretty good use of this ability on here, though not many people can really do it right. Example, the poster above you.
Yes I don't beleive in lying to my siblings or tricking them with the play of words, but...
If you say you don't see her as vulpine in the first place, that would entitle you to those things, no?
I'd like to answer this, but I need you to rephrase it because I didn't understand what you meant.
Would it not be more befitting of a fox, and thus more the thing that newcomers would expect and be prepared for in a place like this?
Is the way you make your arguments in your direct and open approach not rather lupine than vulpine?
Yes, it is more lupine than vulpine (if you mean the stereotype in personality). Funny how parts of your personality reflect the people you spend most of your time around isn't it? (I was originally a part of the therian community long before coming over here.)
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