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Re: Kitsune and emotions
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Quote from: tsukos on March 31, 2010, 09:27:13 PM
Hmm... I didn't post in this earlier, but I have to say something.
When I was very young, I was forced to take all my emotions and wrap them up in a little box in my mind to keep from harming myself or others. For an emotional person that was hard, and painful, and has probably affected my mental health more than I know.
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I think a lot of the time my life would run more smoothly without emotions -if I were to become a complete psychopath and live my life by goals, instinct and self gratification rather than petty emotions and empathy...
When I flinch after seeing something painful happening to another or something 'gross,' it makes me 'weak' for reacting that way... and I start thinking about how it's because of the society I've been brought up in that makes me judge something to be disgusting or horrible.
I feel somewhat too empathetic at times...
Trust me, lacking emotion is not all it's cracked up to be. I wish I were more empathetic myself, but it's hard knowing that I don't feel emotions the same way other people do and that it's easy for me to put emotional considerations aside.
I suppose 'the grass is always greener...'
But I admire people who are able to do things without worrying about the consequences so much so that they end up not doing them.
I can do anything dangerous like climbing a roof or doing something scary but when it comes to confronting problems or being assertive I'm terrible!
I mean I can't even sit through a nature documentary on discovery where animals are eating insects or each other without covering my eyes through the 'nasty bits'.
I was about 8 when I stopped crying at the sight of blood! (Strangely enough I have always had a very high pain threshold and rarely get tearful over injuries.)
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Sort of related. Isn't someone whom cannot feel any emotions make them a sociopath?
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I think 'sociopath' and 'psychopath' are almost synomyms of one another. If not then my bad.
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Yes it does.
I'm not one. A sociopath is someone who absolutely cannot feel emotions, whereas what I did was voluntarily shut down my emotional responses.
A psychopath, despite the similar-sounding name, is completely different. Their worldview is warped and twisted through a delusion, and instead of being suppressed, their emotions tend to be magnified out of control. They're usually very violent and unpredictable when not on medication.
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Quote from: tsukos on April 06, 2010, 02:40:05 AM
They're usually very violent and unpredictable when not on medication.
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April 06, 2010, 04:47:48 AM »
Hmm... reading this I do agree the two are very different things. Wasn't fully aware of the meaning of these terms either.
If it's not feeling many feelings any more... guess that makes me a sociopath. But imo that doesn't mean one necessarily needs medication or does / will do harm to someone, though. Least from what I know of this.
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April 06, 2010, 11:48:42 AM »
Just because a psychopath doesn't percieve the world the same as others and thus reacts unpredictable makes him dangerous and needed to be put on medication or locked away?
Somehow that sound just so very wrong.
Think about it like this:
Don't we all see the world different? Don't we all behave unpredictable quite often?
How many times can you correctly predict a person's behavior, and how many times can't you?
How unpredictable... how different can a person be before it's considered to be dangerous?
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The definition of being a psychopath comes more from being uncontrollably violent. That's what the drugs are for, in fact in most cases the medication is specifically to make a person less violent, not to 'cure' psychopathic delusions.
Still and all, it is a good point. And my answer is this: when the person becomes not only unpredictable and erratic, but causes severe and lasting harm to themselves and others, then some measures must be taken. None which I can think of being particularly palatable to anyone, the best course is typically that which places the physical well-being of all parties as top priority. And that is usually being medicated or locked away.
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My pursuit is rude and crude, the questions blunt, the finesse insulting, but it is the only way I know.
To those who know more than I, I hope you excuse my boldness, and to those who know less, I hope you follow in my example.
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Re: Kitsune and emotions
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medication
Trying to read to fast here, when I first read it, I read meditation.
Well, that should help too. Might even work better than medication.
Besides, if everybody was the same, then what would be the point in getting to know people. >> No, you don't have to tell me that, I already know, because I'm the same. <end of conversation>
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I worked in a mental hospital for a couple of weeks weeks last summer. It was a real eye-opener, I'd never really met anybody with any mental illnesses before so working with them was quite different for me.
I think some of those people percieved the world in a very different way to they way you or I might... most of the time it seemed more of a child-like understanding of the world arround them.
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I very much understand what you mean...
For whatever reason, I seem to attract the clinically insane. The first I met were members of my family (and to be honest they actually scared me growing up) but later I found people in other circumstances. It gets to a point I think, where you can sort of pinpoint the truly disturbed, sometimes in moments. I doubt this holds true for everyone, but for the most part... There is just a difference there, you can sense it. And if you spend time with the individual, you often do find they have a very simplistic almost child like view of the world. Though in some cases, I've seen the opposite. Where everything is so complex to them, they don't even know why they do what they do.
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Quote from: iminthatyaoiyoulike on April 06, 2010, 12:20:16 PM
Though in some cases, I've seen the opposite. Where everything is so complex to them, they don't even know why they do what they do.
That's most of the world, actually. Why do we go to work? Why do we go to school? Why do we put up with the things in modern life that piss us off? Why do we keep electing ineffective politicians to office? In the end we can't really say, can we?
School for instance: Why do we need to go to school? To get a better education. Why do we need a better education? To get more money. Why do we need more money? To live a better life. Why do we need to live a better life?
Don't have an answer for that one, not anything specific. At that point it becomes what each individual wants to do with their lives. But at that point we're as far removed from school as bread is from grain. Sure, it helps to have every step in the process, but you don't need grain to acquire bread if your neighbor has some he's willing to trade.
My logic is probably individual and flawed, but think about it. Why do you get up every morning and do the things you do? Is it because you really have a good reason, or just because it's the same thing you've been doing for the past however many years?
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I am the fool. I am without knowledge, and seek to understand in my own way.
My pursuit is rude and crude, the questions blunt, the finesse insulting, but it is the only way I know.
To those who know more than I, I hope you excuse my boldness, and to those who know less, I hope you follow in my example.
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April 06, 2010, 12:35:15 PM »
I see what your getting at, but I think I might have misspoke slightly, or at least left something out.
I'll give you an example...
My uncle Jeff believes that there are 15 secret organizations after him. Each has it's own goals, and each works under mysterious guidelines. He doesn't understand them, but out of paranoia, he does strange things to prevent what may or may not happen in his mind. For example, one day he decided that he had to kill me (I was a baby at the time). He broke in to the house, but luckily was stopped before he could do any damage... He was asked why he needed to kill me, and he was unable to explain. The reasons were just too complex for him, and instead he just said "I need to".
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Ah, I see. I've never personally encountered that sort of thing, though I've heard of it.
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I am the fool. I am without knowledge, and seek to understand in my own way.
My pursuit is rude and crude, the questions blunt, the finesse insulting, but it is the only way I know.
To those who know more than I, I hope you excuse my boldness, and to those who know less, I hope you follow in my example.
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Quote from: tsukos on April 06, 2010, 12:29:22 PM
That's most of the world, actually. Why do we go to work? Why do we go to school? Why do we put up with the things in modern life that piss us off? Why do we keep electing ineffective politicians to office? In the end we can't really say, can we?
Haha ! i tell the same things to people around me and they say i'm insane and i'll live a bad life
3 Month... and she'll be back from Europe and me at mom's house and wild life. my mom said there's foxes in the woods and roaming in the yard
She share the same tough as me
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