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[Zephiris]

*think* I wonder about the ambiguity, though. Wouldn't being a myobu/messenger, by definition, be a job? As such, wouldn't that generally require being recruited by Inari (or a subsequently authorized recruiting agent), having a boss, etc? In many other non-human cultures, there's usually a system for (quickly) resolving issues of status and most legitimate employers will make sure employees are clearly identifiable to avoid incidents and discourage slavers.

On Earth, the equivalent would be an Employee ID Badge for most decent jobs working for a corporation or agency or NPO, etc. Myobu aren't guaranteed credentials and supervision? What about pay? Even if Inari is a goddess, wouldn't there have to be a system for keeping track of everyone? How would a nogitsune be 'identified' if there were no way for a myobu to simply present at least presumably legitimate credentials?

Just curious from a standpoint of practicality in such matters.

I was going to reply in the 'Inari's Messengers' thread, but the board software bemoaned the fact that it was over 4 months old, so...new thread.

[Kitsunami]

I dont know...

I have been referred to by a few as 'Inaris messenger'

I dont know why. Presumably because im primarily white (or, i think i am? xD)

But yeah, id make a damn sucky one if i was.

As for the nogitsune being identified...i dont know, perhaps the behaviours and mannerisms ?

[Zephiris]

We have a hierarchy, yes.  Inari-sama, then down the ranks in ability and trust for the job that's at hand.

I think that was implied, but doesn't have much relation with the questions at hand.

[Seeker]

Oh god I've been besieged with images of little white foxes in nerdy little dress shirts with big plastic nametags pinned to them

[Kitsunami]

hahahahaha <3 

[Zephiris]

Clarification Zephiris.  What do you mean other non-human cultures?   Could you explain that some if it isn't mistyped.

Mm, there's a great deal of diversity on the astral, including a veritable ton of miscellaneous non-sentients. Kitsune aren't the only decently bright ones with many (often conflicting) internal groupings and organization. Everything (obviously) varies greatly, but employer/employee identification tends to be rather the norm I think, for legitimate/"legal" work.

I'm mostly curious if myobu are governed by similar (see original post), since most of the posts have been rather ambiguous or imply you can be 'born into' the job, which makes relatively less sense.

Though, coincidentally, white fur is apparently a relatively rare trait, I don't think it'd be uniquely defining of myobu, otherwise I'd probably know the answers already. 

[Zephiris]

Legitimate and legal work?  You have to be a part of some society with a government for that to even apply.  and in the case of myobu well *shrugs* Not all thinks follow the same pattern.  Mind giving some examples though.  Species etc?

Well, for example...tribal leader metes out law locally, independently, but the leader of a city-state might have actual judicators assigned. Either way, most people don't appreciate certain professions like assassins. If large organization A hired an assassin to kill the leader of large organization B, whom they considered as competition, chances are, A will retaliate, but neither will admit or sanction the use of assassins.

It doesn't require a 'government' in the specific form that Earth has decided upon at all. Effectively, and is often the case, the de-facto owner of any particular chunk of space determines the law there. Things get particularly political with all of the treaties that often determine interaction between independent groups, but that's obviously digressing just a bit.

Some groups happily will buy slaves, but refuse to admit it.

And yeah, the effective 'law' could change every 100 meters in some places, but hatred/fear of some things is fairly universal. Slavers and assassins are two off the top of my head that are almost never given identification by their employers (let alone from anyone who'd use their services), since it'd make it easy to trace back to whoever was leading the racket, so they'd be increasing the likelihood of their own death substantually, while providing no protection or incentive to leave their employees alone.

I've known a few draconic subspecies (small enough to be considered under a single hierarchy anyway) to be quite happy to use any means necessary to achieve a goal, but it's not as if they're the only ones, or if dragons in general do.

But, in simple terms (for instance), on Earth, a corporate office worker or a medical doctor will likely get an employee ID by the overwhelming majority of employers. Russian mafia goons...not likely due to effective illegality of their actions in every jurisdiction. If a corporate employer in the US hires illegal immigrants, chances are, they won't get IDs, and they'll happily try to cover it up under threat of discovery/legal action.

And as far as not all things following the same pattern, that's why I asked specifically about those possible cases, no? .-. I'm not saying it's the same, I'm asking all about it, hence there being questions.

[Hakuzo NightFox]

It seems a lot has changed over time with Myobu at least the one's I know... Not too many are really left anymore... As such a lot of things have changed in the processes...

Nogitsune, The job of the Myobu is to keep them clam and generally repair the damage caused by them. We are to coax them to better ways but we are not allowed to force them to come to Inair's court. Myobu have been focused more on keeping other evil creatures at bay as well and preventing them from causing any harm.

I'll post more later but it's late now.

[Nintai no Nogitsune]

Nogitsune, The job of the Myobu is to keep them clam and generally repair the damage caused by them. We are to coax them to better ways but we are not allowed to force them to come to Inair's court.

You say that as if they are all little mischief makers. 

[Hakuzo NightFox]

Some of them are. Not as bad as Reiko. Sometimes they can get out of hand and cause a bit too much collateral damage. Don't get me wrong, not all of them are that bad.

[Nintai no Nogitsune]

Some of them are. Not as bad as Reiko. Sometimes they can get out of hand and cause a bit too much collateral damage. Don't get me wrong, not all of them are that bad.

Reiko in what way reiko?

Do you refer to nogitsune in a region you're responsible for or something?

[Hakuzo NightFox]

Some of them are. Not as bad as Reiko. Sometimes they can get out of hand and cause a bit too much collateral damage. Don't get me wrong, not all of them are that bad.

Reiko in what way reiko?

Do you refer to nogitsune in a region you're responsible for or something?

Reiko is a name I've heard given to some of the more nasty/evil kitsune.

[Kyuuji]

Reiko is a name I've heard given to some of the more nasty/evil kitsune.

Reiko

[Kyuuji]

if the Good and the Bad want to win over the other one, who's good or bad then ?

[Takumi-no-Kitsune]

When it comes to such things, there is not a definition of what is "good" or "bad". In the ways described by ones higher than myself and others, there is an abundant neutrality. There is a balance between what is "good" and "bad" in this sense, in which both "sides" can cause as much or as little harm as the other can.

That balance is an essential part of being kitsune. That is one of our fundamentals.

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