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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2009, 03:36:42 PM »
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That's right. Everything changes.
Even concepts change over the ages, and if they're not safe, why should gods be?
And apart from that, is it not selfish to forbid gods the liberty of change just so that we may have some distant certainty in our lifes?
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« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2009, 06:40:05 AM »
Correct.  I personally hold that only our true names are eternal and concepts.   Though perhaps a bit more than just our true names or rather the true names has more than I think it does.
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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2009, 02:27:00 PM »
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True names? I it to change that you fear?
Not even the state of the soul is eternal. It changes ever so slowly, slower even than the spirit, and certainly changing with the speed of  continents moving when compared to the rapid changes the body. But it does not stay the same, even if it takes years, decades, or lifetimes to change. I dread and shiver in fear at the thought of always staying the same. And even though I also dread the thought of losing the vulpinity I earned, I can rest in peace knowing that it will not be for a long time yet, and certainly in this life. When it happens, I will not be able to remember the fear anyway.
 Huh?
If I were to pick things that I believe to be uincapable of changing, it would be the very fundamental concepts of the existence time and space, but that may only be to my sheer incapability of imagining how it would be should those change.
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« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2009, 02:47:20 PM »
Stagnation is boring. Boredom is like living, but not being alive. Like un-death. I couldn't cope with a universe where everything wasn't liable to change.
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« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2009, 03:46:27 PM »
Quote from: Kira on February 26, 2009, 02:27:00 PM
Not even the state of the soul is eternal. It changes ever so slowly, slower even than the spirit, and certainly changing with the speed of  continents moving when compared to the rapid changes the body. But it does not stay the same, even if it takes years, decades, or lifetimes to change. I dread and shiver in fear at the thought of always staying the same. And even though I also dread the thought of losing the vulpinity I earned, I can rest in peace knowing that it will not be for a long time yet, and certainly in this life. When it happens, I will not be able to remember the fear anyway.

In the same way I badly fear the thought of ever loosing my kitsune self. Also the thought that I could ever reach a "nothing forever" state in case a spirit really can be killed forever, or that I could end up never seeing my kind again.

I don't have a problem with nothing changing however. Lack of change is something I am used to, and as long as I don't go down from where I climbed I can live without change. Actually to one point I fear change, and only feel safe if everything remains in the exact same way as I feel it's safe, though nowadays every day of my life is identical to the other, and it feels as if I'm living as a clone or ghost on the other side fox_thoughtful

Quote from: Seeker on February 26, 2009, 02:47:20 PM
Stagnation is boring. Boredom is like living, but not being alive. Like un-death. I couldn't cope with a universe where everything wasn't liable to change.

I perfectly agree here, that is very true. I think any living being would go insane if there was -absolutely- no change in their lives forever, though I am ok with very slow changes.
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« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2009, 05:12:43 PM »
Quote from: Kira on February 26, 2009, 02:27:00 PM
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True names? I it to change that you fear?
Not even the state of the soul is eternal. It changes ever so slowly, slower even than the spirit, and certainly changing with the speed of  continents moving when compared to the rapid changes the body.

Actually I was speaking of total Oblivion not change.
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« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2009, 03:00:57 AM »
spirits claiming to be Inari has changed over the years but the original the origin is still out there
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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2009, 04:46:52 PM »
That differentiates the person and post though.
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    « Reply #23 on: December 03, 2010, 08:57:10 PM »

     To be honest, I have to completely agree with Kuro.

     In retrospect to the posts, all can be taken from a certain point of view. Kuro is apparently holding a very special bond between himself and Inari that is personal to him. He may not be well liked by a majority, as I can tell, but as for me? I don't have an opinion of him.

     As an Inarist myself, I take a bit of affront on anyone who would chose to bash on someone else for their view of our Mother, no matter what the standpoint is.

     Perhaps his method of presentation could change, but the point he made was clear:

     This is how he views Her.

     Let's not bash that. If not for his sake, then for our Mothers, because this is how She chooses to reveal Herself to him.
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