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[leon]

im the only renamon in this world and trying to figure out ho to change back into my true form if anyone has any ideas i would apperiate it very much

[Seeker]

Although since the recent attack from 4chan it's often full of trolls, and I'm pretty sure you'll have to email their administrator to register, Digiclipse may be something to look at. Probably more your style anyway.

[Taoki]

First of all, leon. In order to be -spiritually- a renamon the renamon race must astrally exist. As far as I know, renamon were invented for the digimon series by the person who made them and they are a fictional race which only exist in our minds when we watch the series or imagine them. So the only way they could be spiritually real is if the creator of renamon actually invented them after an existing astral race and made them similar to a breed there (if the creator of the series would happen to somehow be capable of seeing such things or was told by someone who can). Or if a species similar to ranemon just happens to exist on other worlds by coincidence.

Not telling you this to be mean or anything, I'd never do that over something like this but I'm just trying to explain things better so you won't be confused or believe something fake. A ranemon you cannot possibly be (unless, as I said, the author of digimon somehow copied them entirely from a real astral race) but you could very well be -something similar- to one. I believe there are some astral creatures which look a lot like renamon out there so that might be your case. Even so however it's highly unrecommended to come on a forum and say you are a renamon because that qualifies as otakukin and even if I respect and understand them as well (don't personally believe what they believe in however) it's not something that a real kin community usually accepts and you will be seen as a fake or someone trying to flame the group or to get attention for saying such a thing. Not even I trust that you're not an RPer trying to start an rp here although I don't judge such things that quickly and am just explaining how that's like if you really are interested in this.

So next time you talk with someone or go on a forum, the wrong way is saying "I'm a ranemon spirit" which sounds totally silly to most and will only bring in trouble. The right way is saying "I am astrally a unique breed which from X Y and Z points of view looks like a renamon", without trying to suggest you actually are a renamon. Most of us are open to the idea of non-earthly breeds existing astrally (I for one am 100% sure they do) but not the idea that a cartoon character breed does. So just keep this in mind and be more careful how you talk about things from now one. Also be careful how you form your sentence so you don't sound like an RP'er just from the way you present things.

[Kira]

I started out as a Renamon too, many years ago. He may just be at the beginning of his journey, that's why I asked his age.
And such a journey is really important, so you cannot push it. Every step and every potential change must not be foreced, but must come from the heart, if at all...
So leave him some time, and until then, accept him like he is: As one who would be like a fox.
 

[Taoki]

:determined:
Oh, cut the political corectness brother...
 :blink:

I accept what he is, I didn't want to say I didn't. I was just clearing that detail about ranemon for him to help since I consider these things important and wouldn't want him to believe something false and be sad about it then, or have people believing he is lying when he isn't. As I said he could likely be exactly like a renamon just that well, astrally they are not exactly the same thing as in digimon.

The main problem is that people easily tend to believe others are liars or RPers when they say something like that and he might risk getting ignored or even banned for 'fluff' on some otherkin forums (here it's ok and people don't get banned for their beliefs but many will probably see this post in the wrong way). That's because the kin community is pretty suspicious these days and many react totally different when someone tells them they are a breed similar to renamon then when someone tells them they are directly a breed from digimon. But yeah maybe I worry too much and talk too much so if it's the case don't mind me

[leon]

well my im renamon6969 is from yahoo send me a im and ill explain the best i can

[kynelongtail]

Yo, not to be mean to anyone, but i have met Leon, in fact i was the one who lead hiim here. his spirit form is really damned close to a renamon, weird as it may sound, but my guides are the same way, and i know they aren't the renamon from the series of digimon, but they are damned close.

[Alynna]

For all intents and purposes something that appears or feels like a renamon is more likely to be a kitsune.  I would have to say if your spirit guides are claiming to be renamon there is a problem either on your end or on theirs.  But of this I am not even certain at the moment....

You see in the time i've been exploring .. astral matters and realms .. I've noticed that there is alot of 'media synchronicity'.. anotherwords, things ending up in media that actually do exist out there.  To give a blatant example, I have seen chocobos while exploring other realms in astral travel.  They are even called, chocobos, as far as I can tell. 

There's a logical explanation of course:  Other people see these things through some sort of experience, and then write about them.  It might be a cursory glance during meditation or many other vectors..  and then they get written about and used in stories, shows, etc..

To get back to the point .. I dont think that we can rule out that 'renamon' are not their own subset kind of fox spirit.  Maybe they are.   I would doubt they are actually called 'renamon' though.  I think however that its the responsibility of those who believe they are renamon (and theres a number of them here now) to try to get down to the nitty-gritty of the matter...

IF these fox spirits that we are calling 'Renamon' because of their similarity to something so named in the game, actually exist as their own type of fox spirit...  then they have their own truth seperate from the game and that needs to be figured out.   This is much less probability-challenged then some of the claims I have seen: that people are actually renamon from the digimon world.

Here are some actual possibilities that are more likely:

• That you are fox spirits, not renamon, but you have latched onto renamon because it is similar to what you feel you are, solely because renamon are essentially kitsune.
• That your spirit guides are fox spirits, but you see them as renamon due to an internal bias of perception.  This is actually ACCEPTABLE for someone new to self-exploration, because if you know nothing about foxes, kitsune, fox spirits, etc.. except what you saw in Digimon, then the conclusion you have reached is logical, though incorrect.
• You might be totally delusional.  But I usually don't make that assumpton first..

What I am trying to say is that...  renamon are a caricature of kitsune.  If you believe you are a renamon, and you have decent evidence of it, then you should look further at it, i think there's either more to what you know, or less.

I also think that maybe the renamon that have gathered here should start talking about *why* you believe this.  At least if you don't want to talk about it, then introspect the idea with yourselves.

You want anything you believe about yourself to be *real* in the end..

[Kuro]

....Chocobos....I met one a while ago....
Kyuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu~~~

[Kira]

You see in the time i've been exploring .. astral matters and realms .. I've noticed that there is alot of 'media synchronicity'.. anotherwords, things ending up in media that actually do exist out there.  To give a blatant example, I have seen chocobos while exploring other realms in astral travel.  They are even called, chocobos, as far as I can tell. 

There's a logical explanation of course:  Other people see these things through some sort of experience, and then write about them.  It might be a cursory glance during meditation or many other vectors..  and then they get written about and used in stories, shows, etc..

Thats good, but what about the principle of causality?
Could it not also be, that if many people imagine one and the same thing a new realm or a dream of a realm is born from the thoughts and dreams of those people? Renamon and Chocobos are pretty common examples, and there's loads of fanfiction out there, so many people think and dream about those. So we can't exactly say what's the cause and what's the effect, now can we?

[GoldKitsu]

This topic had been dead after the restart and Leon hasn't come back so I don't see why anyone should get bent out of shape over this topic anymore.

[Kuro]

Chocobos existed before we knew that did, and had an older name.  Only a few people call them by that name though, because Chocobo just describes them better.  That's why.

[GoldKitsu]

Glad your stopping your stupid stuff.  Though why be so sarcastic on Chocobos your insulting Final Fantasy.

[Kuro]

I'm not being sarcastic.  I was explaining that we CAN explain the cause and effect.

[Alynna]

Even though chocobos have been around since before FF, i still call them chocobos because thats the only name I know for them.  They may even represent a type of bird that existed on Earth but went extinct, who knows...

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