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[Keiluna]

I really need a hand with this... I live in a spiritually nasty part of Missouri... If it weren't for current defenses, I'd be having continuous attacks... every single night. I tested something... maybe 4 weeks ago.. I had a demon pop up with a gift basket wondering how I was and where I'd been... figuratively speaking. Just a weak attack, testing to see how things were. If it weren't for a Rider being around at the time, I would've been ran over by the van in the dream and hauled off by whatever... (Damn slow-motion moving... I rarely ever have that happen.)

I have only a really simple Call given to me by... someone... for the Riders and I also have some others, dragons, standing guard... but I don't want to have to rely on them constantly... I wanna be able to try and stand against them myself.. but... I can't lucid, so I can't keep up a steady white barrier... and my focus really sucks when it comes to a white barrier before I fall asleep... Maybe... 2.5-3 times out of 5 it works when I don't have anyone with me.

I was also told a fairly simple charm to use... but I can only remember 3 words out of maybe 10... and I dont' remember what candles to get other than red. And maybe blue. But definitely red.

Anyone have any tips? I don't get to go into animal form very often at all... When I do a lot of running, I'm usually wolf... and only once I've been jaguar (and I was fighting someone or something in a panther form).

I'm gonna be stuck like this until I can move. And when I move I'm leaving this country and it's demons behind. I really don't want to be physically attacked again either, and that's happened twice... both leaving me with a heatbrand going from the right side of my waist to the upper left side of my back, near my shoulder.

I know I could pray to whatever god you suggest, and that you could do praying for me (which I would be highly appreciative and thankful for) but... like I said, I don't want to rely on someone (or someOne) else's power and abilities... and I don't always realize attacks because I don't see the damned demon... it's always there in spirit, as a manner of speaking. Rarely do they take forms I could attack if I had mind to.

If anyone has any suggestions, I'll be highly receptive of them. Thanks.

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[Seeker]

So... this is all happening in dreams, if I'm reading your post correctly.

Normally my first call would be to tell you you're just having nightmares, but nightmares don't leave marks. Marks like that spontaneously appearing aren't a good sign. Although sleeping on top of something can create those type of marks, I think you'd notice something like that before you fell asleep. Also, lucid dreaming doesn't necessarily mean controlling every aspect of the dream, just being able to influence it as opposed to viewing it passively like a television. What you're describing is somewhat lucid.

Can you describe the demons? How about these Riders and Dragon you've been calling? They say anything in the dreams? What exactly was this Call you said you used? If you figure out more what they are you'll probably be able to use them better.

As for the barrier, it's awfully kitsch, but you could put salt around your bed, and focus on that. If you aren't fully aware in dreams(most people including myself aren't) you won't be able to maintain any sort of field anyway unless you tie it down to a locus, and in that case you might as well just carry it with you. I don't know how effective a mobile charm would be for this, and I have alot less experience with them than stationary constructs. Besides, I've never dealt first-hand with an actual invasion before, it's pretty peaceful up here. I'm going to have to think on it.

When it comes to dealing with this sort of thing though, remember that fancy words and specific symbols are nigh irrelevant- what counts is faith and willpower. Though I'm loath to suggest you bring something like this to  a christian clergy, because there's no chance in hell you'll get anywhere without having to listen to them rant about how horrible they think you are, unless you've got another sort of religious folk on hand, They're your best bet for a quick fix. But you're right, you'll want to deal with it yourself in the future.

As for leaving the country, it occurs to me that moving around in this world won't get you much further away from the others. Don't be too eager to pack up and leave on account of this.

[Keiluna]

I would have agreed with you years ago about it just being nightmares, but the nightmares happen EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.** I never get a break unless I have the Riders and the dragons around me. There is ALWAYS a nightmare. There was never a time that I didn't have one unless I felt truly protected, I think. Another thing that points it out to not being just a dream is that there is always straight... something to get me scared. I had nightmares to the point where I did not want to go to sleep until I met my ex, he's the one that gave me the Call for the Riders and helped me with them.

And they also don't suddenly wake you up in the middle of the night making you think you're entirely awake with your door opening of it's own volition with a silver-grey blob starting to go past it. Which also holds you down and gets thrown back in the name of the Christian God. *Was freaking out at that point as couldn't speak to Call.*

I would like to say that there was a red mark extending like that, but I can't really remember... There was just heat, more like a heatband instead of brand, but it didn't go away for a good ten minutes.

To the lucid: If I could control something in the dream, anything, then I'd be happy to call that lucid since I normally have zero influence over a dream. I rarely remember it's a dream to pull myself out to astral.

And I can't describe the demons... other than they usually throw blood and a bad guy from a movie into the mix normally, like either Micheal from Halloween or Jason, I can't remember too well even though the guy was wearing a hockey mask; it could be a mix of the two. If I could remember what the... things in the last one looked like, other than vaguely eel- or snake-like, I'd be able to give you that. Amazingly they've taken on the aliens from Halo XD Not the Flood though, mind you... I'd've possibly freaked out even more in that one.

The Riders are elves, simply put, Riders of the Sdhie. (I feel I've misspelled that though.) They're usually around me, but as of recent events (i.e. the breakup) I can't help but feel that they hate me... My most recent dream of possibly smashing one of the females into the ground a few times not helping a single bit.

I don't call the dragons, they're supposed to be around me at all times, so.. That's all I've got to go on on that. A friend, in a court, lent me them, in a manner of speaking.

The Riders do speak in dreams sometimes... but I can't ever really remember what they say... I understand the emotions they send toward me though. That's about all I have to go on there, and they've never sent me any feelings of ill-will. I think they'd rather not be around than do that... but I'm really not sure about it. The one time I might have had the dragons in a dream, they took on human form for me to recognize as friendly better... or it was my own head that did that. And I'm really not that comfortable about throwing the call out here, where anyone can read it, y'know? When we're both on at the same time next time, I'll post it and cut it out.

Actually, your suggestion for the barrier, I never even thought about that. And there was even salt in one dream that I had something oily/greasy try to attack me in (the one with the vaguely eel-/snake-thingies). I thought it was crystal, quartz anyway, but as I was running along one walk and didn't feel any threats, I realized it was salt instead. (Go subconscious brain! XD It's smarter x3) And I rarely, if ever, have anything face me in broad daylight, it's always at night, here, that they try and freak me out. One Christmas last year reminds me of that... the thing was so strong I could point out exactly where it stood and about how tall it was. It was about 5-6 feet behind me and about 4, 4 1/2 feet tall.. Or maybe it was 5-foot.. It was short, regardless, and took the sterotypical form of human in my head. And I didn't like it a bit. Thankfully, he made it leave, my ex did...

And I know that they aren't useful by themselves... I know that if I don't have enough energy and will to put into the words for the Call, they're just words without meaning. Words and symbols are focuses in themselves and work when there's enough energy and will to be put into them. I've had once when I called the Riders as a whole and nothing happened, I didn't have enough energy to call all at once, and so went with calling just one of them, one that looks most like my ex. I was starting to get sick then, we'd broken up maybe a week before, and I needed someone to talk to, (namely my ex) and he'd blocked my number when I'd last tried to call... I Called the Riders, nothing happened... Called one of the Riders and he was there... lifted my starting sickness and helped me get to sleep. (Sorry to bring in RL issues, but the only example I had.)

As far as the Christian clergy goes, I've had one friend who knows what I'm talking about help me out with the first thing that assaulted me physically... actually went and hunted it down and burned it after being thrown through a dead tree and throwing the thing through a tree and dropping and book of Psalms or a small Bible on it. And they'd prolly just tell me I'm psycho or something... I need to slow down on the caffeine or lay off the drugs... Catholics'd prolly tell me I need to accept Christ into my life and these things won't happen.

And I don't imagine any place as being as bad as this... maybe worse, but I just want a-freaking-way from here... I'm tired of having to worry about things that want to freak me out and the like... I'm also waiting on something big enough to force it's way through and leave actual physical marks on me... Enough to bleed, that is.

**-- They mainly started after a possible meeting with Lucifer. That's when they picked up in frequency I think... I really can't remember that well. I can relay what happened in that dream if you would want me to.

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[Kira]

Some things are best forgotten.
The more you think about something, the more you fear it, the greater is its potentiel to influence you.

[Keiluna]

I didn't worry about it so much until it go to where they just kept happening. I thought that they were just regular nightmares, although they happened frequently... up until blood and fear became very common.

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[matoa]

Sídhe elves (pronounced shee). Your ex would not happen to be of Irish decent? (even though these elves appear to be much older than the Gaelic people, Ireland is the most recent known home of the Sídhe)

Are you singled out? Is everyone in your area being targeted or is it just you?

Do you feel these creatures are trying to harm/kill you? Or are they merely there to torment or weaken you?

Do you live around Wayne, Madison, or Bollinger county?

I grew up in a house where there were bad spirits, I remember seeing two of them, You don't forget things like that. I used to have terrible nightmares every night, much like you describe, I had cross shaped cuts appear on the soles of my feet overnight and bruises appear out of nowhere. I was terrified of the darkness. I even had several occasions of sleepwalking where my mother said I would start screaming or running out of the house, even though I did not remember them the next day.

My older sister was into witchcraft at the time, and I think she had a Ouiji board. When I was eight years old she left the house and the spirits left with her. I have not had a nightmare in almost twenty years, sleep is now a friend and ally and darkness does not bother me anymore.

Is there someone or something around you that could be attracting them, or is it you? If it is a haunted house or a witch that lives nearby you can solve this by moving, however if these creatures are after you then there are few places on this earth you can go to escape them. In that case you must learn to defend yourself, or find allies to help you.

I am older now and spiritually stronger, and even though my heart still has a touch of fear from those days I feel I can now defend myself from most of these things.

I would much rather have outside assistance than live in constant fear of these creatures. Take any help you can get, but also learn whatever you can to defend yourself in the meantime.

Keep me updated, i'm not psychic you know.

 

[Keiluna]

I knew I misspelled that >_>+

But he and I both are, but he's the experienced one when it comes to magick and the like; I live in the bible belt and have no access to books. ... and am too underconfident (*Forgets word.*) to try much.

I don't know if I was being singled out or not; in the house I pretty much was... but since I've got added protection, they've moved onto dad now, from what I figure, and the dog's always had nightmares from the way she seems when she's sleeping. He's been having his own constant bad dreams.

I don't know what their intention is, other than to freak me out, pretty much.

And I live on the Butler/Ripley county line. Well, the county line is just up the hill XD

The first place we lived in I know that there was something out there. Looking back on some memories I can't help but feel like there was something always just there... Not to mention the demon my brother pulled up by messing with a goat's-head, I think that's how the first demon got attached to me. The red eyes I saw looking back at me in my brother's window, I guess I sleptwalked into his room, didn't give off any scent of malice or anything. I just looked up and either... they weren't there for a second and then they were or they were there the entire time. All I did was blink at them and lay back down. But when I went back to the house in a dream, there wasn't any red residue from activity of any demons, as what my ex said, there was only blue, sign of cleaning out being done by fae.

And up the road at my grandpa's, I know that something's there, unless it was a one-time thing, seeing just the figure of a shadow-man when I was maybe... 6 or something, I'm not sure; I was young anyway. I'd gone downstairs to get some water and when I'd gotten my cup and went to the fridge (it was one of those totally awesome ones that had teh built-in waterline in the fridge Press the button inside the fridge and ice-cold water came out It totally beats the heck outta the ice/water thingies on the freezer portion of them XD) when I looked out. Just standing there was this shadow figure. He didn't do anything but stand there. I think I abandoned my thought for water and casually made my way back up to my aunt's room.

I really think it's just this area's history and things in the ground... My ex said that the first one felt at least a little more than a few centuries old. And the second one I had I could almost feel it's age at being fairly young, even then a century or two.

And there are still days that I won't go into a dark room at night without slapping at the lightswitch first. About half the time now, I still sleep with my light on (thank gods for green Xmas lightbulbs xx;; ).

And I will. I don't expect (and also am hoping) that there should be any attacks anytime soon. At least full-fledged attacks... there have been times that they've made the set for an attack and haven't been able to fully barge their way in. That happened a few times in the past week or so.

Oh! Anyone know about demons using something else that doesn't have their taint to attack someone? I reminded myself about a dream like that... I'd had an old friend show up in one dream, then he sort-of showed up again and something... uhm... unwanted happened, I'll say. I'd been saying that "No one is to touch me, no one is to get through" and the like. Saving space only for those that needed help and protection to be able to get through/stay. In my dream, things were perfectly fine, no hint of demon or anything, even when the lights went out and I got knocked out of the chair I was in (blinded on the way down). The only time I tasted/felt any demon was when I was taking the thing that attacked me outside (it started out as a child-sized thing and turned into a cicada o-O )... needless to say, it wasn't very happy. I felt it rather clearly, but I think it was more like a growl than anything.

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[Seeker]

hmm... it's a longshot, but I keep hearing about elves and fae. I don't have any knowledge of these things, but I noticed something else. You said blue was their color when they were getting rid of crap? Maybe switching those lights in your room from green to blue would scare the bugger off for a while. Worth a try. Also, while ouija boards do have a funny way of making a mess, I've never heard of it coming back on anyone but the user/s.

[Keiluna]

Blue is more my ex's power colour, if you will... whereas mine is more like the green of new growth on a plant... I never thought of it like this before you said it, but the bulbs as they are might help my own small power.

.... That and I don't have any blue ones x3

And are you INSANE??? Oujia boards bring things IN. OO At least in my opinion... though influenced by that quack Sylvia... *Shudder.* I'm... gonna think more than twice about taking Sylvia Browne's word... Learned that the VERY hard way... Who/what she says is fae queen is NOT fae queen. Trust me... I seen her... *Cowers a little.*

But yeah, I'm not touching a board. I have enough nasties around. They always start innocent, but then things change... nasties come in... I'll stick to my bit of small witchery, Goddess protect me... *Shudder.*

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[Seeker]

I'm curious, how did this turn out?

[Keiluna]

I've moved into my (new) boyfriend's since then...

But it's... odd...


It's like... either I just slowly absorbed so much of what was attacking me, even though it was more than one type of malicious entity as I've had wraiths be outside the norm, or my "skin" just got so thick that the usual crap doesn't really phase me so much.


I finally took the step forward to open one part of myself last month and it reduced the amount of attacks I had, not as often as I had when I was closed off. From there it went from having the occasional attack that freaked me the hell out, heart racing, fear of the dark (once fear of my boyfriend and brother because of an attack that was pretty much waaayyy out of the fucking norm), fear of any shadow really... then it was... an attack that didn't phase me.

Recently I have started praying to Shiva for different combinations of protection, guidance, warning and help with attacks. It did help some. There were attacks that were deadened and I could attempt to do something about and some, I think, that I couldn't really tell at all. When I had opened up, the attacks seemed to stop all together. The attack that came some time after that was... for lack of a better expression... utterly pathetic. It seemed like the little doll that I had previously had come back and I'd gotten just enough stronger that I could look at it and laugh at it wanting to be big and tough. But I have had the "real" occasional attack since then, like a couple nights I had something come and freak me out. I had difficulty waking, but I think I had a bit of help with that part.

But for a time frame before this, from March til Septemberish, I'd had very little Dragon help (March being the time I moved into my boyfriend's), but it was removed due to court issues, as per what I was told. Then it went back to a different friend for a short while, having had an encounter with a wraith, having me started crying when I called her. I had two attacks during that time, one was helped by a friend of a friend. He had woken a part of my physical self to feel my boyfriend sleeping behind me which helped to guard me in it and take me away from it. The other I had to go through, though I had done, oddly, a push-up on the physical side of it; I had been trying to wake up. My boyfriend didn't know what to make of it, so he let me sleep after asking me if I was okay, if I was awake.

Then before this, there was the leech encounter in January with my, and I hate to say it this way, newest ex. He has since seemed to have fully recovered from it.


In St. Louis I seem to get them fairly easyish when at home I don't so much. I think it has to do with being in a, more or less, new location with new/different spirits, though the location doesn't really seem to have that many. I have recently noticed that it seems as though I have seemed to have closed off again, and I think I understand/know why, but it doesn't really seem to have any real effect as of yet, since I've not been home, and won't be til possibly Friday or some such.


I had been told by one friend that a possible reason why I was having such vivid dreamscapes was that I could possibly be a healer, if I remember correctly. That could be the reason that I'm being targeted like I am, though my spiritual skin seems to be getting a bit thicker for the usual things that like to snack on me, could be a reason maybe? But I really don't think I've got the stuff to be a kind of healer, especially since I think I've been absorbing tiny amounts of what I've been attacked by, and with the way I feel inside when I want to be actually mean and attack something for either the hell of it or for fun. Part of me says fun, but the "human" side of me says "for the hell of it". It's kind of confusing and hard to explain... I do sometimes get the same feeling in summertime when I stretch myself out to the wind while singing, though.


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Also, thanks for fixing the font, the board changed the screwup.

Also edited the first sentence for correction/clarification.

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