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[Aine]

Or yokai, if you want to spell it that way. Anyway, I'm sure there's people out there who identify as something like tanuki or tengu, and on a kitsune board, I think youkai should at least get a general board for themselves.

[Kuro]

I'll second that, though I rarely find tanuki nowadays.  they're usually too caught up in their human lives.  :x

[Monique]

<img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/fox_enthralled.gif" alt="^_^" title="Happy" /> I think it is a good idea, but since normally Youkai is the Japanese word  often meaning demon/monster/spirit perhaps we should just have a general demon-kin forum?  So you can discuss those that are not Japanese in origin as well.

[Kuro]

well, tanuki aren't demons.  Oni are the only real demonistic characters in Shinto; strong, stupid, prone to evil (just a generalization; some oni are smart, and some good).  Youkai is more along the lines of kami that aren't necessarily religiously significant.

[Monique]

I know Tanuki arn't but Oni and Tengu are, or so they've often be depicted in mythology.  Besides, demons don't always have to be evil.

[Kuro]

I just don't like the term demon.  Too western, too negatively connotating.

[kentenko]

I just don't like the term demon.  Too western, too negatively connotating.

Western You say? I find that interesting considering the term originated in the east and is a term used more commonly in the east than in the west...

[Kuro]

The term "demon" originated around the time that Christianity was invented, and NOWadays, Christianity is a western forefront, firstly.  Secondly, you hear a lot more westerners use the english word "demon" than easterners, so take that and shove it in your stocking.  It's an english, christian word, being used by english, christian people for english, christian reasons that I despise, kthx.

[Taoki]

Personally, I hate christianity and everything that has to do with it, because despite being closed minded and a hilarity for real spirituality, christians hate all that has to do with "furry spirits" including kitsunes, which I have even heard they slayed a lot in the past together with many otherkins. Hope no one here gets upset, but christian gods probably deserve to get that back

As for the term "demon", I use that word often as my kitsune self is "partially demonic" but in a good way. I didn't know the word itsself came from the christians, but if it did I would probably have to find something else to describe my dark side.

[Aine]

Personally, I hate christianity and everything that has to do with it, because despite being closed minded and a hilarity for real spirituality, christians hate all that has to do with "furry spirits" including kitsunes, which I have even heard they slayed a lot in the past together with many otherkins. Hope no one here gets upset, but christian gods probably deserve to get that back

As for the term "demon", I use that word often as my kitsune self is "partially demonic" but in a good way. I didn't know the word itsself came from the christians, but if it did I would probably have to find something else to describe my dark side.

I think it's a little much to say that Christians do like all of them feel the same way. There are plenty of fundamentalists, yes, but there are open-minded Christians too.

I personally would prefer the word "Youkai" over "Demon" simply because that's the original term, and more correct because it doesn't carry the same negative connotations.

[Katsumi]

Personally, I hate christianity and everything that has to do with it, because despite being closed minded and a hilarity for real spirituality, christians hate all that has to do with "furry spirits" including kitsunes, which I have even heard they slayed a lot in the past together with many otherkins.

Hate breeds hate.

Just remember that.





I did take offense to your statement here -- because of how bitter, judgmental, and general it is.   I don't consider myself a Christian, but I grew up in a Christian family and still carry a lot of Christian "roots" in my own spiritual path.  

I am so tired of running into people who scream out "I hate christians because they hate/judge/are close-minded, etc, etc!".... despite the sheer hypocrasy of saying such a thing, what they more likely (and what you most likely) mean is that the few people you've run into and the stories (historical or not) that you've heard and believe in are individuals or groups of people running around under some pretense or self-proclaimation of being Christian....  that their views and actions are radical, and/or you simply don't agree with them.

Like every other religion and path, there are a million different interpretations and variations and followers, and Christianity is no different. But I think it's important to see here the problem with generalization - because while yes, some people who call themselves "Christian" may have done terrible things in the name of God... to me, and to many others, "true" Christianity has nothing to do with judging others or slaying others or any such thing.   There are individuals under the label "Christian"; it's not like everyone who is Christian is like how you say here.  Generalizations are just as judgmental and hateful as the actions of those individuals who are to blame -- think about that.

Not all Christians hate furries, otherkin, etc.   That is a hateful, spiteful generalization.

I have also never heard of any Christians (individuals, groups, organizations, or church) slaying otherkin or kitsune or "furry spirits" or anything like that for being that way because they hated them/didn't believe them -- may I ask for a source on this?   Or is it just a spiteful, fearful, hateful rumor that you're helping to spread?

[Taoki]

Firstly, I'm really sorry if I made you feel bad with that post. I did not want to, so I hope you forgive me for that, please.

Its simply what I know and have seen. The only religion in my country are the christians, and I have seen their priests and been to their churches many times. They are closed minded and unaccepting, that is the truth. They do judge people who are gay or anything else, that is very known... and they consider animal/furry spirits evil and horrible. So in this case, while they bash everything, I have my own reasons to hate them. We have to at least speak against those who are enemies to us, as I understand what a hateful enemy can do.

I have once seen a "gifted" priest of the christians. He was just gifted cuz he could read peoples past from a book.. not something really impressing compared to what I believe someone can do. I did not like him.. but as he was gifted and I was very young and unknowing by then, I asked him what he believed about me being a furry/animal soul by then. He said I am "too good to be something so evil". I wasn't really affected much by the insult against my belief as I was close to killing myself back then because of that though, as I had bad fears of doubting myself anyway.

As for them slaying us, I have been told from another kitsune about them doing that, and I believe it very clearly as I know how they're like. It is the truth about them, and it saddens me when kitsunes and other otherkins don't understand the evil and danger of many normal people, but anyway I won't be getting into that now.

So yeah.. sorry once again for upsetting you about it. Your a kit too and I care about all of you as much, its just that I have my reasons to see them as a enemy religion. Ill try to be nicer about it from now one though.

[The Light]

My mother said this once, "It's often those who don't profess to being good Christians that are the best people."  I take this quote to heart being a moderate Christian myself and I'll tell you I'm much more open minded than most people, otherwise I wouldn't be here.

Remember, religion is made by humanity and humanity is meant to be flawed so it only makes sense that religion is flawed.   Personally I find the Catholic branch of Christianity to be the most off base and it was the first Christian church.  They were known to kill "heretics" and threats to the church so if you put it all together it makes sense.  It doesn't make it right but it's a valid explanation.

[Alynna]

The board "Youkai and Kami" has been created.   This thread is being moved to it.

[Kuro]

Personally, I hate christianity and everything that has to do with it, because despite being closed minded and a hilarity for real spirituality, christians hate all that has to do with "furry spirits" including kitsunes, which I have even heard they slayed a lot in the past together with many otherkins.

Hate breeds hate.

Just remember that.





I did take offense to your statement here -- because of how bitter, judgmental, and general it is.   I don't consider myself a Christian, but I grew up in a Christian family and still carry a lot of Christian "roots" in my own spiritual path.  

I am so tired of running into people who scream out "I hate christians because they hate/judge/are close-minded, etc, etc!".... despite the sheer hypocrasy of saying such a thing, what they more likely (and what you most likely) mean is that the few people you've run into and the stories (historical or not) that you've heard and believe in are individuals or groups of people running around under some pretense or self-proclaimation of being Christian....  that their views and actions are radical, and/or you simply don't agree with them.

Like every other religion and path, there are a million different interpretations and variations and followers, and Christianity is no different. But I think it's important to see here the problem with generalization - because while yes, some people who call themselves "Christian" may have done terrible things in the name of God... to me, and to many others, "true" Christianity has nothing to do with judging others or slaying others or any such thing.   There are individuals under the label "Christian"; it's not like everyone who is Christian is like how you say here.  Generalizations are just as judgmental and hateful as the actions of those individuals who are to blame -- think about that.

Not all Christians hate furries, otherkin, etc.   That is a hateful, spiteful generalization.

I have also never heard of any Christians (individuals, groups, organizations, or church) slaying otherkin or kitsune or "furry spirits" or anything like that for being that way because they hated them/didn't believe them -- may I ask for a source on this?   Or is it just a spiteful, fearful, hateful rumor that you're helping to spread?

Hon, you have to understand, it's all about people generalizing each other.  Some of us generalize christians, they generalize otherkin, and any other belief system non-christian in origin.  I happen to know that there are many people who are not god Christians in the church's eye, but are the best christians i have ever known, just on the basis of being kind and respectful.  I also happen to know that there are a lot of bad christians, period.  But that's how it is with all religion (except Buddhism and Shinto...cuz we rock like that).  The same applies to being an otherkin.  Just don't generalize, and take things on a case-to-case basis.

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