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[Fawkesey]

just because you don't remember past lives, doesn't mean you haven't had any.

That being said, I understand what you're getting at.  Although I don't see a correllation between parents and children tailwise, and personally I dont' serve Inari-sama, or any youkai, kami, or diety myself, so I obviously got them through a different method.  Which is why I believe as I do.

Who knows, we all could be right

[Kuro]

There definitely have to be several ways, because otherwise nogitsune would have a harder time earning tails than myobu, which would be irresponsible of the Courts to allow to happen......
<coughs>possible</coughs>

[Fawkesey]

there are near infinite possibilities out there, so I wouldn't discount that, however there is a saying, "you get what you pay for."
I'd personally venture to take the harder path myself

[Kuro]

* is just happy to have a step ahead of the growth curve in energywork, really doesn't care how he got it *

[matoa]

I'd personally venture to take the harder path myself

I agree, I would hate to miss out on all of the wonderful learning experiences ahead by "skipping" to the front of the line. Not to mention not even knowing or remembering how you got them or what you went through for them! It is sad to think about forgetting the important things in your past. Or even forgetting past lives.

Could you imagine waking up one day as an old and wealthy man/woman and not remembering how you got there, or the people and places you visited?
 ^_^

[Fawkesey]

hehe, yeah sometimes I wonder how they all fit back there, but it works out somehow.

[Rei Tsukikage]

Spatial displacement units, lol no j/k  come to think of it maybe Kuro is another possibility in hereditary power, i mean look where i am. i only have four but i share a body with the soul of an ancestor spirit which had nine. and instead of being good at just one thing i have an above average learning curve and i tend to be sensitive to energy imbalances within quite a large area. so possibly kuro you might be focusing a bit much on the fact that you have the tail's and little on the gifts and wisdom they impart. i mean theres a reason why some kitsune fail to receive another tail. some times its a test within it self to posses some thing above the others.

[Moon]

What about reincarnation?

It would make sense if one was reborn with multiple tails (phantom or otherwise) then. They would have earned the tails in a past life, but since it's still the same soul/spirit, they're not actually skipping out on any steps.

I highly doubt I earned all of my tails in just 18 years, so this process makes more sense in my situation at least.

[Kira]

:determined:
Then again, I suppose anything that's been engraved upon one's soul will not only carry over to the next life, but to any of them...
 
Once I get the capabilities, I'll look into this personally. I find mythology extremely untrustworthy when it comes to these things. But first I have to get the capabilities...

[Shiori]

hehe (love the fox icons always were cute) anyway I always beleived the tails were from accomplishments and sometimes age. Maybe reincarnation is a learning process on Kitsune I still do not know..

[Moon]

Reincarnation is pretty generic. It's not a kitsune-only phenomena, and has a pretty basic stance in big religions like Hinduism and Buddhism. If it applies to a multitude of other species, then I don't see why it couldn't apply to at least some foxes.

[Kuro]

There's no one way to gain them; in fact, we're still arguing about theories on how tails can be gained, and part of that unfortunately is due to my odd tailcount at birth....I have three, and this is my first life ever, not counting half a year at "home."  Generally, however, there are three theories;

1.) Numbers of years the kitsune has been alive
2.) Acheivements in power (nogitsune) or loyalty and service (Myobu)
3.) Family lines (parents already have 9 each, child recieves tails earned after that)

[Moon]

There's no one way to gain them; in fact, we're still arguing about theories on how tails can be gained, and part of that unfortunately is due to my odd tailcount at birth....I have three, and this is my first life ever, not counting half a year at "home."  Generally, however, there are three theories;

1.) Numbers of years the kitsune has been alive
2.) Acheivements in power (nogitsune) or loyalty and service (Myobu)
3.) Family lines (parents already have 9 each, child recieves tails earned after that)

Just because you apparently were born with multiples doesn't mean they can't be gained. What applies to you doesn't always apply to the next person.

Personally, I think they're just energy flares. When looking at the foxlore, the numbers seem to be highly symbolic in use. There's a lack of certain numbers, for one thing, and if this multi-tail trait was really that important or widespread, then I would expect more numbers to exist. They don't. For the most part, it's just one tail, with a couple of 2 or 9 tails elsewhere. Now that could also be from most of the foxes being actual biological foxes, but then that just supports my case that these tails are energy/phantom tails, rather than actual physical tails.

When encountering something that is "supernatural", like a spirit fox, it wouldn't be too hard for a human to see those energy flares and count them as tails. It wouldn't be too hard for the human to "see" a fox in general, since the culture of East Asia encourages those views.

The tails seem to be highly personal and special to each person. What one interprets the tails to mean clearly differs from what another may think. I certainly don't subscribe to any of these views outside of the power level one, and even then it might not apply to me.

[Kuro]

There's no one way to gain them; in fact, we're still arguing about theories on how tails can be gained, and part of that unfortunately is due to my odd tailcount at birth....I have three, and this is my first life ever, not counting half a year at "home."  Generally, however, there are three theories;

1.) Numbers of years the kitsune has been alive
2.) Acheivements in power (nogitsune) or loyalty and service (Myobu)
3.) Family lines (parents already have 9 each, child recieves tails earned after that)

Just because you apparently were born with multiples doesn't mean they can't be gained. What applies to you doesn't always apply to the next person.

Where in that fucking post did I even fucking SAY that they couldn't be gained?!  I JUST SUGGESTED that they could be gained!  If all you're up for is to slam on my posts, I'm warning you now that it isn't gonna get you far.

[Moon]

You can relax. I'll apologize for this one because I just read it as "no way" instead of "no one way".

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